Intro to INC
Commentary on Introduction to the Iglesia Ni Cristo Part II
(jasbir) Great, pilosopo. Are the Big Four still holding back the winds of war until now?
(lumpen) The winds were let go, in 1939? Considering the INC qoutes "there was silence in heaven for about half an hour", but Not by the four angels though. Who let go the winds in 1939? Adolf Hitler!
(servant) Pilosopo, that was a well written piece. Let me quote you
"However, their poignant attacks against the Church did not go unnoticed. We face our adversaries with vigor and enthusiasm knowing that we are defending the truth which we have learned through our association with the ministers and workers of the Church, acquiring this vital knowledge during worship services, bible studies, evangelical missions, tv and radio programs and from the Pasugo magazines. Much to the chagrin of our enemies in the faith, their malicious attacks against the Church did not weaken our faith, nor the faith of millions throughout the world."
My friend, and I mean that sincerely, I am not your adversary that you need to "face with vigor" anymore than I consider you mine. We battle not against flesh and blood. If anyone on this board is able to change your faith we got a problem. Only God can do that. We are but instruments to share with you the TRUTH.
The quote above speaks volumes on how you came to know the truth. You mentioned everything but the most important aspect of the TRUTH. Jesus said, "If you abide in me, you shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH will set you free. Further, the Holy Spirit is the teacher, He shall teach you the TRUTH but you have to be willing. Friend, it's not a mere slip of the pen that you forgot to mention the revealer of truth. A true child of God knows to whom the credit belongs. Yes, you wrote a very eloquent piece on who the INC is. [allow me to speak loudly..]
BUT YOU FAILED MISERABLY TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE ONE WHO SHOWED YOU THE TRUTH. THAT IS WHY I'M SURE THAT INC IS NOT OF GOD. I WAS INC. I ATTENDED THE WORHSHIP SERVICES. NO ONE FORCED ME TO JOIN. I JOINED AND LEFT THE INC VOLUNTARILY. I LEARNED THE TRUTH WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOCKED ON MY HEART AND REVEALED TO ME THAT INC IS FALSE.
The veracity of the INC can be determined with a simple examination of the bible. We are not dealing with translations. Take any translation that you want. Time and again, the claims of INC can not be substantiated. THEY ARE SIMPLY FALSE. The last messenger, the eastern angel, the sealing of the Jews in Rev 7, deletion from the book of life are simply -- man made doctrines. Take any translation and you will soon discover that the doctrines require extensive twisting of biblical scriptures.
You and your ministers enjoy the dog returning to its own vomit and pig playing in the mud passage. It provides a graphic description. It's clever of you to keep quoting it since it makes a reminder/warning to your members to never live the church. In reality, it's matter of vantage point. I can say with all certainty that I will not return to my own vomit, to playing in the mud - the place known as INC. I therefore call you friend, that it's NOW TIME FOR YOU TO LEAVE YOUR OWN VOMIT, LEAVE THE MUD and Join the Family of God.
It is also very fitting that you praise the Church not God in your "doxology". Glory to INC. That again speaks volume.
TO ALL READERS, IT'S NOT BY ACCIDENT THAT JESUS AND GOD WAS "LEFT OUT", MINIMIZE BY INC IN THE ABOVE POST. THE PRIORITY IS FELIX MANALO.
Everyone note that the quotation from Jude 3. The faith was once for all given to the saints. That means the faith was complete. Jude 3 is actually a counter to the INC claim for the need of the last messenger in these last days. The bible is complete. All scripture is profitable....according to Paul. The faith was once for all given. no more revelation..In Hebrews 1, it says that "God in sundry times and diverse manners spoke..but now has spoken through Jesus [not Felix Manalo].
Let me end as Jasbir does
Praise be to Jesus the creator of heaven and earth. [John 1:1-1, Col 1:15-17, Hebrews 1:1-8]